Testimonials from Over the Years

"... moving through the coverts like phantoms ..."

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Pictured above: Just a few of the hundreds of letters from all over the world John has received over the years ...


~~~ The Fetters Challenge ~~~ ~~~~~~~~ UPDATE ~~~~~~~~

by John Fetters
© 2010 Fetters Setters, all rights reserved
© 2011-2012 Fetters Setters, all rights reserved
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December 4th, 2010
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It has been nearly nine months since I published this challenge (see original ~~~~ The Fetters Challenge ~~~~ below) and I have been thoroughly disappointed that no one has yet come forward.
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Again, I invite anyone to bring their best sires and dams used in their breeding programs to produce a setter they classify as a "Ryman," "Ryman Type," "Ryman Style" or "Dual Type" (or what have you) setter to join me in The Fetters Challenge.
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To make matters more interesting, I propose a $2500 stake to be put up which will be donated by the loser to the winner's favorite charity.
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This challenge will be filmed and will be made freely available on the internet for anyone who cares to view it.
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Again, the Fetters Challenge entails the following:
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A six-day hunt running in brace with any setter from my kennel, which will begin each day at sun-up and end at sundown. Point for point, wild bird for wild bird, retrieve to hand.
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At the end of this six day period, we will see whose setter is eager and rarin' to go hunting for the seventh day.
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This should finally put to rest once and for all the claims of those who claim to own ~ or especially those who claim to be breeding ~ "Ryman Type" and/or "Ryman Style" or direct "Ryman Line" gun dogs.
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Particularly welcome in The Fetters Challenge are those who have been making false claims against me and especially those breeders who have been spreading rumors to the effect that I no longer breed, raise and train shooting dogs and/or that I am DEAD!
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At the end of the day, any takers to The Fetters Challenge will be welcome to join me for a cold beer or hot toddy and to watch a few old Ryman films from our library.
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~~~~ The Fetters Challenge ~~~~

by John Fetters
© 2010 Fetters Setters, all rights reserved
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March 13th, 2010
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I personally invite anyone out there who claims to own a "Ryman Type" or "Ryman Style" setter to bring their best setter and join me in The Fetters Challenge:
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A six-day hunt running in brace with any setter from my kennel, which will begin each day at sun-up and end at sundown. Point for point, wild bird for wild bird, retrieve to hand.
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At the end of this six day period, we will see whose setter is eager and rarin' to go hunting for the seventh day.
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This should finally put to rest once and for all the claims of those who claim to own ~ or especially those who claim to be breeding ~ "Ryman Type" and/or "Ryman Style" or direct "Ryman Line" gun dogs.
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Particularly welcome in The Fetters Challenge are those who have been making false claims against me and especially those breeders who have been spreading rumors to the effect that I no longer breed, raise and train shooting dogs and/or that I am DEAD!
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At the end of the day, any takers to The Fetters Challenge will be welcome to join me for a cold beer or hot toddy and to watch a few old Ryman films from our library.

Saturday, March 13, 2010

Testimonial and "Rumors of My Death" Attribution from Bryan Rennell

Shown above, Bryan Rennell's Fetters English Setter,
Ginger, at two-years of age
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Bryan Rennell, formerly of Georgia and now residing in Texas, acquired Ginger from John at eight-weeks of age. Later he sent the above photo and the letter below.
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John heard from Bryan again this past August (2009) when Bryan posted a comment on "The Rumors of My Death Have Been Greatly Exaggerated ..." piece on our "Fetters English Setters ~ Classic Style English Setters ~ Home Page" in July 2009, and found (with Bryan's comment) by clicking here.
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Interestingly enough, we had been hearing other first-hand reports for sometime that other breeders were spreading the rumor that John had died! We found this as amusing as we did disturbing ~ or as John has commented a number of times, "It's amazing what some people will say to sell a dog."
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Below the following testimonial letter from Bryan Rennell, we have also placed images (and the actual text) of emails from Bryan verifying yet once again that indeed, some breeders will say anything to sell a dog.
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As we have recounted earlier on other pages of the Fetters English Setter web site/blog, we have first-hand knowledge of where a number of these rumors have originated, which sadly include a number of breeders who knew and know better ~ and in fact, had contacted John numerous times in an attempt to obtain some of the Fetters English Setter bloodlines to add to their own genetically-struggling breeding programs ~ and whom John had repeatedly turned down as he did not care for the direction their breeding programs were going in.
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Directly below, Bryan Rennell's testimonial letter to John about Ginger (below that, another photo and below that, the August and October 2009 emails John received from Bryan recounting the "death" rumors and the breeder who was helping to spread them):
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"Dear John,
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"Hope all is well in Sandy Ridge. I have tried to call several times, but couldn't catch you. Ginger is doing very well. I had trouble with her creeping last year, but she has quit. We have been finding several woodcock, and I plan on going on a couple of preserve quail hunts before March.
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"I am wanting to breed Ginger in the next year. I had her hips x-rayed and she was given an OFA Excellent rating. This is a true testament to your quality breeding program. I was hoping you could help me find a suitable stud for her. I would like to keep one male puppy, and hope it would be a Blue Belton. I would also like to try and improve on Ginger's desire to retrieve.
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"How was your hunting this year? I understand that your area is still on the high side of the grouse cycle. There are so few birds here, I have all but given up on them. The tree loggers have stopped logging in the National Forest, so the habitat is poor. Maybe I could come up there for a couple of days next season.
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"Any help on finding a good stud dog would be most appreciated. I look forward to hearing from you soon.
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"Best Regards, Bryan
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"P.S. All of my contact info is the same."
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Shown above: letter and photo sent to John

by Bryan Rennell when his Fetters English Setter

Ginger was two-years of age

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Below are the text and actual images of two emails received by John from Bryan Rennell in August and October of 2009 in which Bryan confirms that he had indeed been told John was "dead" ~ and told that by breeder Jan Turner of Setter Hills in Willmar, Minnesota ~ who also had attempted numerous times to purchase English Setters from John to introduce the Fetters Setters bloodlines into her breeding program ~ and whom John had turned down repeatedly:
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Aug 28 2009 / 19:03:54
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"John,
"I left a comment on one of your posts, but just found this email contact page while reading. This is Bryan Rennell formally from Gainesville, GA. I purchased a great orange belton female from you named Ginger out of Darby Wind'em & Allegheny Shell. I too had heard the rumors that you had died. It is great to see that you are still alive and kicking! I was in the market for a new pup a couple of years ago and ended up with a male from another breeder. I wish I knew you were still active in breeding. Looks like I have a lot of reading to do on your site. The information is great! I look forward to hearing from you and hopefully I can have the pleasure of obtaining another one of your wonderful dogs.
"Best regards,
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"Bryan"
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Shown above, image of actual email
received by John from Bryan Rennell
in August 2009 recounting that Bryan
had heard the rumors John "had died."
~ Click on image for larger version ~
Below is the text and image of the actual
email where Bryan recounts the breeder
who passed this malicious rumor to him
was none other than Jan Turner of
Setter Hills in Willmar, Minnesota
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From: Bryan Rennell
To: Fetters Setters
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Rumors!
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"Thanks for the reply John. My male setter came from Jan Turner at Setter Hills. He has some Pinecoble, October, Alder Run and Fetter’s Allegheny Buck. He is a pretty good dog but doesn’t seem to have the drive Ginger has. He is just going into his 3rd season, so we shall see how he shapes up this year. I think I heard the rumor of your demise from Jan Turner. She had heard it from somewhere, but never did say.

"Glad to hear you have some young pups coming up. I assume they are of your breeding. Please stay in touch and I will be checking your website.

"Best regards,

"Bryan Rennell, LEED®AP, QCxP
"Associate"


~ Click on image below for larger version ~
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